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[RESEARCH NEWS] Standford study explains pro-GPL radicals
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Alexander Terekhov
2009-10-22 17:48:05 UTC
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In general, students who were the most pro-GPL were the
most likely to say they wanted to express their views,
compared to those with moderate or anti-GPL views.

However, in one study the researchers added a twist:
they gave participants fake data which indicated that
other Stanford students held relatively conservative,
anti-GPL views.

When extremely pro-GPL students viewed this data, they
were less likely to say they were willing to discuss
GPL usage with their fellow students.

“It is only when they have this sense that they are in
the majority that extremely pro-GPL students are more
willing to express their views on the issue,” Morrison
said.

However, students who had more extreme anti-GPL views
were not more likely to want to express their views,
even when they saw the data that suggested a majority
of their fellow students agreed with them.

[...]

People with more extreme pro-GPL views in the community
may be more likely than others to attend publicly
visible protests

http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/rms-ati-protest.html

and display stickers

http://www.zazzle.ca/gnu+stickers
http://shop.fsf.org/product/super-sticker-mega-multi-pack/

espousing their pro-GPL views, because they think the
community supports them.

“Everyone else sees these extreme opinions being
expressed on a regular basis and they may eventually
come to believe their community is more pro-GPL than it
actually is,” Morrison said.

“You have a cycle that feeds on itself: the more you hear
these extremists expressing their opinions, the more you
are going to believe that those extreme beliefs are normal
for your community.”
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The above is sorta unauthorized derivative work of

http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/majopinion.htm

(Fair use and all that.)

regards,
alexander.

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David Kastrup
2009-10-23 10:14:06 UTC
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Copy of this letter sent to the author of the original article (which
had a completely different title and focus, namely being about the
acceptance of alcohol policies in student dorms).

This gross misattribution was posted in several Usenet groups as
Post by Alexander Terekhov
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In general, students who were the most pro-GPL were the
most likely to say they wanted to express their views,
compared to those with moderate or anti-GPL views.
[...]
Post by Alexander Terekhov
“You have a cycle that feeds on itself: the more you hear
these extremists expressing their opinions, the more you
are going to believe that those extreme beliefs are normal
for your community.”
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The above is sorta unauthorized derivative work of
http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/majopinion.htm
(Fair use and all that.)
In short, the above is complete hogwash that you fabricated yourself by
taking an actual study that had nothing whatsoever to do with the GPL,
then insert "GPL" and stuff everywhere wihle keeping the sentence
structure, pass it off as though it had actually be done by Stanford in
this context, and put headlines like the subject line in it where you
use words like "pro-GPL radicals".

You certainly know that "fair use" does not, I repeat, _not_ entail
passing off a fabrication of yours as that of somebody else. In
particular not when you misrepresent their study and work, and
completely change its content and focus.
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David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov
2009-10-23 10:33:53 UTC
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Hey dak, why don't you send a complaint to

http://maps.google.de/maps/place?hl=de&source=hp&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=boeblingen+poizei&fb=1&gl=de&hq=poizei&hnear=boeblingen&cid=2520550833099290880

as well?

Uh silly dak.

regards,
alexander.

--
http://gng.z505.com/index.htm
(GNG is a derecursive recursive derecursion which pwns GNU since it can
be infinitely looped as GNGNGNGNG...NGNGNG... and can be said backwards
too, whereas GNU cannot.)
David Kastrup
2009-10-23 10:29:05 UTC
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Post by Alexander Terekhov
Hey dak, why don't you send a complaint to
http://maps.google.de/maps/place?hl=de&source=hp&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=boeblingen+poizei&fb=1&gl=de&hq=poizei&hnear=boeblingen&cid=2520550833099290880
as well?
Standing.
--
David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov
2009-10-23 10:57:50 UTC
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Post by David Kastrup
Post by Alexander Terekhov
Hey dak, why don't you send a complaint to
http://maps.google.de/maps/place?hl=de&source=hp&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=boeblingen+poizei&fb=1&gl=de&hq=poizei&hnear=boeblingen&cid=2520550833099290880
as well?
Standing.
Thanks god GNUtian dak doesn't think that my alleged offence raised to
the level of criminal misdemeanour or felony. Hallelujah.

Go to doctor, dak.

regards,
alexander.

--
http://gng.z505.com/index.htm
(GNG is a derecursive recursive derecursion which pwns GNU since it can
be infinitely looped as GNGNGNGNG...NGNGNG... and can be said backwards
too, whereas GNU cannot.)
Alan Mackenzie
2009-10-23 16:21:48 UTC
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Post by Alexander Terekhov
Hey dak, why don't you send a complaint to
http://maps.google.de/maps/place?hl=de&source=hp&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=boeblingen+poizei&fb=1&gl=de&hq=poizei&hnear=boeblingen&cid=2520550833099290880
as well?
Boeblingen, eh? Nice comfy town not a million miles from Stuttgart.
Could it possibly be that you work at Sun, Alex? Sun has a site near
Echterdingen, just off the A8, comfortable daily travelling distance
from Boeblingen. Just wondering.
Post by Alexander Terekhov
regards,
alexander.
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
Alexander Terekhov
2009-10-23 17:16:06 UTC
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Post by Alan Mackenzie
Post by Alexander Terekhov
Hey dak, why don't you send a complaint to
http://maps.google.de/maps/place?hl=de&source=hp&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=boeblingen+poizei&fb=1&gl=de&hq=poizei&hnear=boeblingen&cid=2520550833099290880
as well?
Boeblingen, eh?
Yep.
Post by Alan Mackenzie
Nice comfy town not a million miles from Stuttgart.
Yep.
Post by Alan Mackenzie
Could it possibly be that you work at Sun, Alex?
I don't work at Sun, Alan. I work for its competitor.

regards,
alexander.

--
http://gng.z505.com/index.htm
(GNG is a derecursive recursive derecursion which pwns GNU since it can
be infinitely looped as GNGNGNGNG...NGNGNG... and can be said backwards
too, whereas GNU cannot.)
Alan Mackenzie
2009-10-23 17:50:47 UTC
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Post by Alexander Terekhov
Post by Alan Mackenzie
Boeblingen, eh?
Yep.
Post by Alan Mackenzie
Nice comfy town not a million miles from Stuttgart.
Yep.
Post by Alan Mackenzie
Could it possibly be that you work at Sun, Alex?
I don't work at Sun, Alan. I work for its competitor.
Ah, OK. So you aren't under direct threat from Sun's difficulties.
Somehow, that cheers me up.

Have a good Friday evening!
Post by Alexander Terekhov
regards,
alexander.
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
Rjack
2009-10-23 18:01:05 UTC
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Post by Alan Mackenzie
Post by Alexander Terekhov
Hey dak, why don't you send a complaint to
http://maps.google.de/maps/place?hl=de&source=hp&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=boeblingen+poizei&fb=1&gl=de&hq=poizei&hnear=boeblingen&cid=2520550833099290880
as well?
Boeblingen, eh? Nice comfy town not a million miles from
Stuttgart. Could it possibly be that you work at Sun, Alex? Sun
has a site near Echterdingen, just off the A8, comfortable daily
travelling distance from Boeblingen. Just wondering.
Why do you want to Know Alan? So you can stab Alexander in the back at
his place of employment? It's the potential malicious assholes like
you that requires people to keep their personal information anonymous.

Sincerely,
Rjack :)
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2009-11-16 18:31:05 UTC
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Post by Alexander Terekhov
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In general, students who were the most pro-GPL were the
most likely to say they wanted to express their views,
compared to those with moderate or anti-GPL views.
they gave participants fake data which indicated that
other Stanford students held relatively conservative,
anti-GPL views.
When extremely pro-GPL students viewed this data, they
were less likely to say they were willing to discuss
GPL usage with their fellow students.
“It is only when they have this sense that they are in
the majority that extremely pro-GPL students are more
willing to express their views on the issue,” Morrison
said.
However, students who had more extreme anti-GPL views
were not more likely to want to express their views,
even when they saw the data that suggested a majority
of their fellow students agreed with them.
[...]
People with more extreme pro-GPL views in the community
may be more likely than others to attend publicly
visible protests
http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/rms-ati-protest.html
and display stickers
http://www.zazzle.ca/gnu+stickershttp://shop.fsf.org/product/super-sticker-mega-multi-pack/
espousing their pro-GPL views, because they think the
community supports them.
“Everyone else sees these extreme opinions being
expressed on a regular basis and they may eventually
come to believe their community is more pro-GPL than it
actually is,” Morrison said.
“You have a cycle that feeds on itself: the more you hear
these extremists expressing their opinions, the more you
are going to believe that those extreme beliefs are normal
for your community.”
-----
The above is sorta unauthorized derivative work of
http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/majopinion.htm
(Fair use and all that.)
regards,
alexander.
--http://gng.z505.com/index.htm
(GNG is a derecursive recursive derecursion which pwns GNU since it can
be infinitely looped as GNGNGNGNG...NGNGNG... and can be said backwards
too, whereas GNU cannot.)
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